Ancestor Approved

Tonight I must share my humble thanks at being “Ancestor Approved”! Yay!

I was awarded this from Susan Edminster of Echo Hill Ancestors, a blog I have been following for some time and greatly enjoy! The award was created by Leslie Ann Ballou of Ancestors Live Here to recognize “blogs full of tips and tricks as well as funny and heartwarming stories…”

I know that Sue at Echo Hill fulfills this, and I am slowly attempting to myself, in this blog, not only showcase my own family history, but some stumbles and leaps I’ve encountered along the way.

To participate you must list 10 things that surprised, humbled or enlightened you about your ancestors.
And of course, to pass along to 10 other bloggers out there. I am working on this part and will have a “Part II” updated soon.

For tonight, my 10 surprises, humbling and enlightening experiences (phew, where to start?!):

1. The LOOPS family, as is my surname and for most of us, where our research begins, started as a “you and your brothers are the only Loops out there” statement. And how even in the beginning’s of the internet (way before Rootsweb and the LDS websites) proved nearly instantly that this was not the case. Surprise! There is family out there!

2. That our LOOPS came from a family who died on the ship’s crossing from Germany, leaving two young boys who DID NOT KNOW THEIR NAME, and were separated when arriving. It was assumed by all current generations that they never found each other.

3. My recent (gulp) discovery, when finding the First and Only known picture of my ggGrandfather Frederick Loops, has the “Loops, Milwaukee Wisconsin” logo on his picture. Meaning it was taken at his BROTHER’s, Charles Loops, photography studio in Milwaukee. Not only did they find each other, but they met….and Frederick, his son Charles (Charles the first) and Charles’ daughter Georgebelle all ventured from North Carolina to visit this “other” Loops family in Wisconsin.
How sad that this information gets lost in just a generation. And how wonderful to finally discover! (tears)

4. I am consistently humbled and fascinated by researching the LOVEALL family, and that, to date, I have yet to find a LOVEALL that is not descended from Henry Loveall, 1694-1786. We are all connected. This is an amazing family to research.

5. In a sappy, sentimental nod, I LOVE that my family has endowed me “Family Historian”, not just in that I’m the only who really Does this research and knows all the lines, but that they have enlisted me to be the physical keeper of the family photographs and sentiments. Boxes just keep arriving. And each new box brings a new set of adventures and explorations – and a whole new set of tears.

6. My sons’ family is a new and I foresee, lasting research project into OLD AMERICANA. It seems that each new name into Dean, Haskell, Hathway, White, Hammond, etc., leads me down another path to American generations of Salem and Plymouth. These make me want to read every historical novel and watch old movies to get a visual glimpse into the garb, the language, the religion, the life that these original American settlers had.

7. Humbling that there are still so many road-blocks. I still do not know the heritage of my YOUNG family, or the correct origins of the WEBBs. I love the challenge of still having something to “research”, but that it makes you want to pull your hair out.

8. Not a surprise, but I am continually impressed with my Great-Uncle Art Young, and the name that he has provided to Bow-Hunting in America. If you are a bow-hunter, you know Pope-Young. That’s Art! He led an amazing life. You can read more about his adventures here.

9. As I dive more into my North Carolina roots, even though I no longer live in North Carolina, I feel more and more connected to the families of Kinston, Lenoir County, where Frederick LOOPS settled; who’s daughter Lelia married a MEWBORN; who’s son Charles married a WEBB, who’s mother was a PITTMAN. The history books of the area tell of these families, families of whom I am all a part of. And it makes me want to return, visit, learn, and give a few hugs.

10. Impending surprise of DNA research out there, and a lil lady who believes she might be a descendant of our Frederick LOOPS and we shall have the DNA results soon to show whether or not this possibility. That DNA research is even possible in calculating genealogical history is certainly the newest of all research out there. What will this possibly mean in the future, I wonder?

There you have it, for tonight. 10 wonderments that have crossed my path in this wonderful adventure. Thank you again, Sue, for the honor. I shall pass it along!

~happy huntings,


Finding Henry Loveall (perhaps NOT Desolate Baker)

For those of you LOVEALL family researchers, I need to take a moment to share the newly published, LOVEALL REPORT: The Descendants of REV. HENRY LOVEALL, an Able and Worthy Preacher (1694-aft 1772), by Gaynelle Moore. Purchase, Read, Learn.

Having just received my own copy of this, I’ll not give anything away, except that as she previously commented on my prior Henry Loveall post, there is little supporting evidence that his name was Desolate Baker. Furthermore, that there is little EVIDENCE supporting the claims and slanders that he was “licentious” or removed from Baptist ministry because of behavior.

Where there is MUCH information available out there on this icky behavior, Gaynelle has researched (with the help of a professional genealogist) the life and times of Rev. Henry Loveall and attempts to prove that the history we have all been working from for so long is UNTRUE. That he was an “Able and Worthy” preacher, despite slanderings now reprinted in history books.

Please take a look. Decide for yourself. But at least give it a gander before further publishing the perhaps incorrect historical record of Henry Lovevall. Let’s put this to rest and offer what is FACT to the Loveall family.

Monday Madness – Henry Loveall, aka Desolate Baker

This morning’s adventure at Google Books has taken me on a historical journey into the life of Henry Loveall, aka, Desolate Baker. I have always “had”, The History of the Loveall Family in America, written by Michael Sullivan, genealogist and family researcher. However, I’ve found so many wonderful quotes to back up Sullivan’s narrative.

To note, this was an easy search, as Henry Loveall was a note-worthy man; famous for his licentious behavior in the Baptist Church, and well documented.

A few of my finds:

John Houston Harrison, 1975, Settlers by the long grey trail: some pioneers to old Augusta Co., Virginia and their harrison Descendants (Shortened), Google Books, pg 176.

“”…The Chestnut Ridge church, at Baltimore, Maryland, was the 24th oldest church of the Baptists in America….The first pastor of the church was Rev. Henry Loveall, a native of Cambridge, England, and a former resident of Newport, Rhode Island, 1729, and Piscataway, New Jersey, 1730. From New Jersey he removed to Chestnut Ridge, Maryland, in 1742 and to Virginia in 1746. The Rev. Loveall was FORCED TO RESIGN, and in 1751-2 was succeeded by Rev. Samuel Heaton….”.”

Jon Butler, Awash in a sea of faith: Christianizing the American people, Google Books, pg 122.

“”…. in 1728 or 1729 the Piscataway congregation ordained Henry Loveall as its minister, despite an association suggestion that they wait until Loveall had preached to them for a trial period. After ordaining him, the congregation discovered that Loveall was an impostor named Desolate Baker who had changed his name to hide a BIGAMOUS second marriage, sexual LIASONS with slaves and Indians, and even a case of syphilis. The assocation used Piscataway’s predicament to shame it into acknowledging the association’s authority. Nathaniel Jenkins, the association’s correspondent, flippantly observed that Desolate Baker’s alias was all too well suited to “one who loves so well the Black, the swarthy and the White”….”.”

Elder John Sparks, The Roots of Appalachian Christianity: The Life and Legacy of Elder Shubal Stearns, Google Books, pg 20.

“”…. while on the journey he helped ordain a preacher who went by the name of Henry Loveall, who later turned out to be AN ESCAPED CONVICT from Long Island named Desolate Baker who used his position in the General Baptist ministry for several years as a cover for his real identity as well as additional questionable activities….”.”

Julius Friedrich Sachse, The German Sectarians of Pennsylvania: 1742-1800, Google Books, pg. 101.

“….back to Burlington county to visit a hermit or recluse who lived the life of an anchorite near Crosswick Creek, a short distance from Burlington. The Chronicon speaks of him as ‘John Lovell, an old Pythagorean’. Who he was or what connection there was between the Ephrata Brotherhood and this recluse does not appear.
In an old Baptist record, dated 1746, mention is made of one Henry Loveall, or Lovell, who came to New Jersey from New England about 1730-1732 and settled near Piscataqua, three miles east of New Brunswick, and one north of the Raritan river. The town was on the site of an old Indian village, and was a seat of justice as early as 1683. This Loveall, or Lovell, preached to the Baptists there for over two years, and then was ordained.
The old record further states that Lovell was never permitted to administer the holy ordinances, and that he was soon after excommunicated from the church for behaving himself in an eccentric and disorderly manner.
There can be but little doubt that the John Lovell of the Chronicon and the Henry Lovell of the Baptist records were one and the same person. Whether he was, as claimed, identical with the hermit, who lived for almost forty years in the dense pines about four miles east of Burlington, and who, in his obituary notice, is called Francis Furgler, is an interesting question. Whether the name “Lovell” by which the Ephrata Brethren knew the recluse, was his real or assumed name we have no means of knowing. If the name in the obituary was the true one, and it was the same person, there is some possibility of his having originally come from Germany…..”

The latter, mentioning Henry Lovell as also a John Lovell and a potential German recluse, I do not consider factual. There is no data to back this up – where as there is much data acknowledging his true name as Desolate Baker, from Cambridge, England.

Just goes to show that not all is true! It is only one perspective on telling history, and in this case, I consider it false. Still, an interesting look into the Lovell family (who knows what ties Henry Loveall had with existing Lovell’s in old New England).

Again, the fascination with the Loveall family in America is that, so far, everyone surnamed LOVEALL is tied to Desolate Baker. Many have changed their name to LOVELL over the years, which makes things a bit confusing as not all LOVELL’s are attached to the LOVEALL family.

Sounds though that Desolate Baker, aka Henry Loveall (or the other way around) was a licentious man, an “impostor” perhaps. And potentially an escaped convict? Ooh, I’ll have to explore that one more. Definitely fitting for Monday Madness.

Thanks Google Books for thrusting me into a Monday exploration.

Surname Listing – PENNY (England)

I’m counting down my family lines – today #29, PENNY, which originated in England.
Three generations of Penny are connected:

6. Charles Homer Young (1917-1996)
7. Harriet Anne Loveall (1922-1978)

14. Benjamin Franklin Loveall (1891-1979)
15. Marguerite Francine Deacon (1890-1977)

28. FRANK WOLFORD LOVEALL was born on 16 Jul 1863 in Probably Kentucky. He died on 29 Apr 1943 in Goleta,CA. He was buried on 1 May 1943 in Goleta,Santa Barbara Co.,CA.
29. SELENA PENNY was born on 6 Mar 1860 in Buckfastleigh, Devenport,England. She died on 28 Feb 1951 in Glendale,Los Angeles Co.,CA. She was buried on 2 Mar 1951 in Goleta,Santa Barbara Co.,CA.

Children of Frank & Selena: Benjamin Franklin Loveall (1891-1979), Maud Loveall (1898-?).

58. SILAS PENNY was born about 1824 in Sherborne,Dorset,England. He was christened on 11 Jan 1824 in Buckfastleigh,Devon,England.
59. JANE TOWNSEND was born in 1826 in Buckfastleigh, Devonshire, England

Child: Selena Penny (1860-1951)

116. THOMAS PENNY was born about 1800 in England.
117. SUSANNAH was born about 1800 in England.

If you have any information on this family, please leave me a comment!
~happy huntings

Surname Starter – LOVEALL (England)

This completes my grandparent generation. Woohoo! Off to a great start.

Now we explore, the LOVEALL family (link goes to my website for more information).

9 generations of LOVEALL:

14. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN LOVEALL was born on 22 Oct 1891 in Cleveland,OH. He died in Aug 1979 in San Luis Obispo,CA.
15. MARGUERITE FRANCINE DEACON was born on 14 Sep 1890 in Sandwich,IL. She died on 25 May 1977 in San Luis Obispo,CA. She was buried on 31 May 1977 in San Luis Obispo,CA

Children of Benjamin and Marguerite are Harriet Anne Loveall (1922-1978) and Marguerite Jean “Peg” Loveall (1928-2000).

28. FRANK WOLFORD LOVEALL was born on 16 Jul 1863 in Probably Kentucky. He died on 29 Apr 1943 in Goleta,CA. He was buried on 1 May 1943 in Goleta,Santa Barbara Co.,CA.
29. SELENA PENNY was born on 6 Mar 1860 in Buckfastleigh, Devenport,England. She died on 28 Feb 1951 in Glendale,Los Angeles Co.,CA. She was buried on 2 Mar 1951 in Goleta,Santa Barbara Co.,CA

Children of Frank and Lena Penny are Benjamin Franklin Loveall, and Maud Loveall (abt 1898-?).

56. GEORGE WASHINGTON LOVEALL was born about 1828 in Wayne Co.,KY. He died 7 on 5 May 1907 in Louisville,Jefferson Davis Co..
57. SUSAN LOVEALL was born in 1835. She died in 1880.

Children of George and Susan Loveall are David D. Loveall (abt 1853-?), Sarah Loveall (abt 1859-?), Frank Wolford Loveall, Edna Loveall (abt 1870-?).

George married (2) Mary Miranda McCoin. Children were Archie Mack Loveall, (1879-?), Catherine “Katie” Loveall (1890-1929).

father of George Washington Loveall:
112. DUTTON LOVEALL was born in 1801 in VA or TN. He died on 8 May 1876 in Wayne Co.,KY.
113. SARAH ROBERTS was born about 1800

Children of Dutton and Sarah Loveall were George Washington Loveall, Mary Loveall (abt 1831-?), Samuel B. Loveall (1833-1880), Malinda “Linda” Loveall Davis (1835-1915), Elizabeth Loveall (1838-?), Stephen Loveall (1840-?), Martha Loveall (1843-?), Jesse Loveall (1846-?).

father of Susan Loveall:
114. DAVID LOVEALLwas born in 1806. He died in 1850.
113. CATHERINE MOORE was born about 1808 in Pennsylvania. She died in unknown.

Children of David and Catherine Loveall were Susan Loveall, Martha Loveall (abt 1837-?), Emily Loveall (1839-?), Mary J. Loveall (abt 1842-?), Stephen Jasper Loveall (1845-?), John Silas Loveall (1847-?).

Parents of both Dutton and David Loveall:
224. STEPHEN LOVEALL was born in 1777 in Bedford Co.,PA. He died on 12 Jun 1867 in Adair Co.,KY.
225. NANCY LANE was born about 1775 in Greene Co.,Tennessee. She died about 1806 in Wayne Co.,Kentucky.

Children of Stephen and Nancy Loveall were Mary Loveall (?), F.T. Loveall (?), Anna Loveall (abt 1799-1800), Micajah Loveall (1799-1880), Dutton Loveall, Aaron Loveall (1802-1858), David Loveall, Nancy Loveall (1806-1871), .

Stephen married Rebecca Roberts. Children were Martha Loveall (?). Zebulon Loveall (1811-?), William Loveall (1816-1861), David Loveall (1819-?), Elizabeth Loveall (abt 1821-?), Peter Loveall (1823-?), Naoma “Oma” Loveall (1824-1890), Marty Loveall (abt 1832-?), Eudocia Loveall (abt 1830-?), Rebecca Jane Loveall (abt 1838-?).

448. JONATHAN LOVEALL Sr.was born in 1744 in Baltimore Co.,MD. He died in 1830 in Adair Co.,KY.
449. VIANNA “Viany” STEVENS was born in 1744 in Pennsylvania. She died about 1830 in Adair Co.,KY.

Children of Jonathan and Viany Loveall were Drury Mortimer Loveall (1772-?), James Loveall (1774-?), Stephen Loveall, Mary “Polly” Loveall Woosley (1777-1857), Jonathan Loveall Jr. (abt 1789-?), Zachariah Loveall (1779), and Thomas Loveall (abt 1800-abt 1860).

896. ZEBULON LOVEALL was born in 1728 in Long Island,NY. He died on 9 Jan 1786 in Baltimore,Baltimore Co.,MD.
897. MARY WEST was born in 1726. She died on 2 May 1770 in Western Baltimore Co.,MD.

Children of Zebulon and Mary Loveall were Henry Loveall II (abt 1742-1829), Jonathan Loveall Sr., Ruth Loveall Chilcott (1749/1750-1810), Rebecca Loveall Lane (1752-1800), Elizabeth W. Loveall Hess (1754-1798), Martha Loveall (abt 1757), Hannah Loveall Plowman (abt 1761-?), Cassandra Loveall (abt 1763-?), Zachariah Loveall (1765-1839).

1792. HENRY LOVEALL aka Desolate Baker was born in 1694 in Cambridge,England. He died in 1778 in Piscataway,NJ.
1793. MARTHA was born about 1699.

Children of Henry and Martha Loveall were Mary Loveall (?), Ann Loveall (?), Zebulon Loveall, Ethan Loveall (1730-1795), Luther Loveall (1731-abt 1821), Calvin Loveall (1734-?), Rebecca Loveall (abt 1735-?), Solomon Loveall (abt 1737-?), Susanna Loveall Dean/Deane (1745-?).
The LOVEALL family is one of my favorite to research because it is a made-up name. So far we have not discovered any LOVEALL’s of the United States that come from anyone but Henry, aka Desolate Baker. It makes it a fun puzzle to piece together.

Difficulty arises in the multiple families that later changed their name to LOVELL, which is not an isolated name, and has many other English origins; therefor it cannot be assumed that all U.S. LOVELL’s are from the LOVEALL family name.

I will put more information on the history of Henry Loveall, aka Desolate Baker, in a later post.

If you are of the LOVEALL family or have any information on this family, please leave me a comment!

~happy huntings